tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post8532996025076896293..comments2023-12-23T04:56:29.702-05:00Comments on Ferule & Fescue: Enemies are bad for businessFlaviahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-42250722493052580302016-04-22T21:51:07.132-04:002016-04-22T21:51:07.132-04:00Historiann:
So true! And thanks for this useful r...Historiann:<br /><br />So true! And thanks for this useful reminder.Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-52903121287590478842016-04-19T10:59:30.624-04:002016-04-19T10:59:30.624-04:00Congratulations, Flavia! (I'm sorry I missed ...Congratulations, Flavia! (I'm sorry I missed this earlier this month.) You've now lived long enough as a scholar to see your ideas, which were so daring and unconventional and difficult to get into peer-reviewed publications, become someone else's "conventional wisdom!" <br /><br />Isn't it amazing how quickly it happens, too? I remember reviewing a proposal for an essay collection in which one of the authors repeatedly lambasting me for all ze perceived that I *didn't* accomplish in my first book. Of course, the years of older men railing at me and the article that didn't get placed in a high-profile journal were invisible to hir--all this young scholar could see was that my book was published & so therefore it must be something everyone already knows and agrees on.<br /><br />HAhahaha!!! <i>If only</i>.Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-19877395767210566872016-04-09T13:48:12.870-04:002016-04-09T13:48:12.870-04:00Well, I suspect that all of us have an inner 11 or...Well, I suspect that all of us have an inner 11 or 12 year old who wants to say to the most popular kid in class, "Pay attention to ME!" And while it's not noble, it also reflects the tensions we face given the meritocratic theory of the academy: if they are getting all the goodies, and we know their work is fine, but really not THAT special, there's a lot of resentment that the system is not in fact meritocratic. (Which we should know, but I'm blindsided by it all the time.)Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-3064420304574263252016-04-09T10:31:48.494-04:002016-04-09T10:31:48.494-04:00Susan:
This is a (characteristically!) thoughtful...Susan:<br /><br />This is a (characteristically!) thoughtful response. I obviously don't know and can't speculate about anyone else, but what you've described is certainly true for me, too--and is something I try to be on guard against.<br /><br />In fact, just yesterday a history grad student in my seminar asked, "so why do lit scholars hate [big name in the field] SO MUCH?" We gave some half-answers that had some merit, but ultimately had to say, "also, really, it's just a lot of resentment and jealousy and the feeling that s/he gets an undeserved amount of attention." Not noble. But true.Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-67138123564263287302016-04-08T19:14:41.404-04:002016-04-08T19:14:41.404-04:00So I've been thinking about this all week, and...So I've been thinking about this all week, and I think when I'm feeling appreciated and valued, I am fine with all the people who get all the goodies in the profession (multiple grants, awards, prizes, etc) but when I'm feeling neglected, I get very snippy. I control that in public, but I know my mental commentary is really snarky -- inappropriately so. And I do talk myself down, so I don't do it in public, and I would never do it for, say grants or awards or tenure letters or any of those things. Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-51108174360284863652016-04-07T19:24:29.688-04:002016-04-07T19:24:29.688-04:00V: don't want to get too specific.
(But it...V: don't want to get too specific.<br /><br />(But it's not who you may think it is, and is in fact quite unlike that person.)Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-59332357920331680452016-04-07T17:06:45.462-04:002016-04-07T17:06:45.462-04:00Is your needless combatant at the same or differen...Is your needless combatant at the same or different career stage? And, dare I ask: same gender?<br /><br />This person will need to learn some more social graces. It's a long career, with a lot of intellectual and social interaction (despite what it might look like to outsiders).Veralindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-51232314459405549812016-04-06T22:46:08.481-04:002016-04-06T22:46:08.481-04:00Undine:
Yeah, that makes more sense (though it st...Undine:<br /><br />Yeah, that makes more sense (though it still sucks)--when there's direct approval to be had, and when one hasn't learned better.Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-84879742800003350322016-04-06T12:41:38.124-04:002016-04-06T12:41:38.124-04:00Mine is a Big Man in the Field. But one who is ve...Mine is a Big Man in the Field. But one who is very territorial.nicoleandmaggiehttp://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-19057972517068440602016-04-05T21:47:58.865-04:002016-04-05T21:47:58.865-04:00I think it was just the grad school dynamic: she w...I think it was just the grad school dynamic: she was the pet of the program, while I flew under the radar, pretty much, as she sniped at me with insults she thought I might not get (yeah, I know who Duessa is, but nice try) until the professors figured out that I might actually have good ideas. It was a long time ago.undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-82676629068481600152016-04-05T08:42:03.367-04:002016-04-05T08:42:03.367-04:00Nicoleandmaggie, Undine:
My condolences! It's...Nicoleandmaggie, Undine:<br /><br />My condolences! It's so strange to me that anyone would deliberately court enmity when he or she could be (depending on the relevant circs & relationship) making a friend, a mentor/mentee, a potential collaborator--or, heck: just someone it's not deeply awkward to be around.Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-81112050645008437012016-04-05T00:02:29.251-04:002016-04-05T00:02:29.251-04:00I have not had one of these (that I know of) since...I have not had one of these (that I know of) since grad school, but it was unpleasant then. undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-16015305944962418082016-04-04T14:38:06.594-04:002016-04-04T14:38:06.594-04:00I have had one of these. It's rough.I have had one of these. It's rough.nicoleandmaggiehttp://nicoleandmaggie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com